302 engine

Discussion in 'Camaro History' started by Z28Racer, May 1, 2003.

  1. Z28Racer

    friend of mine (Ford guy) told me that 69 Camaro had 302 Ford engine is that true? did the distributor come in front or in back of the engine?
     
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  2. L88427BigBlock

    Allright I guess we all have a few ford freinds and just because they are jealous of the camaro they tell some pretty big stories. Chevrolet would never put anythig else in but a bowtie. That 302 is a chevy and could kick some serious butt. I think it would rev to like 7000rpm.:beerchug:
     
  3. Camaro95Z

    The 302 was a limited production engine and was put in the 69 Z/28. I think it was made with a 327 block and some different heads, im not too sure. It was a real work horse and it could outrun pretty much whatever challenged it.......except the Mopars.
     
  4. KEITH

    chevy 302

    THE CHEVY 302 WAS ACTULLY A 283 BLOCK WITH A 327 CRANKSHAFT WITCH MADE THE 302. GM MADE THE FIRST STROKER ENGINE IN THE 1969 Z-28 WHICH WOULD REV UP TO 7000 RPM WITH EASE. BUT IT WAS ONLY MADE FOR TWO TO THREE YEARS...
     
  5. tbarsch

    Well then - what was in the 67 and 68 Z-28?
     
  6. z281981camaro

    ok keith get your facts right. the 302 had a 4 in bore the 283 dose not but the 302 and 283 share the same storke so in other words a 302 is a de stroked any motor with a 4in bore. but the actullal 302 was not made of mix matched parts it had a different crank bore for the mains. but the 302 was a full blown bad ass chevy motor tell your ford fool friend to read up and stop spreading lies. the 67 z/28 was a very rare car that carried a 350 the 68 had some 302s and mostly 350s the 302 was an optional engine code.:iroc-cop: :iroc-cop: :iroc-cop: :moon: :moon:
     
  7. my86

    302

    where was the 302 assembled i found a few our here but it said made in mexico.
     
  8. joe69standard

    I would dissaggre
    Chevy had two plants during production, Norwood and Van Nuys. I doubt that it was made in mexico.
     
  9. chevymania

    The 302 was produced from 67-69.
    It was rated @ 290 HP and was available in camaros and transmission am's.
    This motor was produced for the can am races. The rules of the race was no more than 305 CID displacement and it had to be an engine available in at least 10,000 regular production cars.
    The engine has a 4" bore and a short 3" stroke.
    The 67 was 2-bolt mains and small journal cranks, the 68 and 69 were 4-bolt mains and large journal cranks.
    You can look in my casting lists on the parts ID section and in the intro it is listed and in the small block, block castings it is listed.

    Probably the most famous of these engine is the 69 DZ suffix engine. This particular suffix had the highest production number of all the years.

    In 67 the RPO suffix codes were MO and MP
    In 68 the RPO suffix code was MO (MP was dropped)
    In 69 it was the infamous DZ

    All were backed by 4-spd transmissions and topped with a single Holley.

    These engines were also avalible in the transmission AM as well as the Z-28's
     
  10. PoorMan

    Wasn't the Mustang Boss 302 made for the same races? Wonder who came out on top.

    Jeff D.
     
  11. chevymania

    You are correct. The 302 boss mustang was produced spesificly for these races. The chevy came out on top in the 67 and 68 years until porsche introduded an 1100 HP twin turbo car in 69 for the same races and ruined the races for everybody.

    With there 2.5 liter size they were allowed the turbos and since these cars were production (single turbo model) they met all the requirements for competition. Incedentaly I don't remember ever hearing about any can am races after 1969 or 1970.
     
  12. Snortin 355

    Very good High RPM Engine. But i heard it had no lo-End Grunt!!
    Greg
     
  13. mortis

    Please, all of you, if you don't know what you are talking about don't spread falsehoods.

    1 The 302 was produced 1967 thru 1969.

    2 all 302's used the currently (at that time) produced 327 block.

    3 67 302's were small journal blocks and all were two bolt main.

    4 68-69 302's were large journal blocks and all were 2 bolt main.

    5 All 302 cranks were forged. Same stroke as 283 but different.

    6 302 engines were never offered in Pontiac transmission Ams.

    7 All had forged pistons, with 69 being floating pins.
     
  14. mortis

    And also during the years 67-69 ALL Z-28's had the 302 engine.

    The Z-28 option WAS the 302 engine along with mandatory power front disk brakes and other required parts such as the special 4 leaf rear springs.

    There were no Z-28's with 350 engines (optional or otherwise) until the 70 model year.
     
  15. mortis

    I don't mean to be an ahole but I have owned a 68 Z-28 since 1977 and have done a lot of research over the years. BTW, my Z-28 was in and still is in factory original condition.
     
  16. dirtyminded1

    We all know that FORD guys are full of poop
     
  17. mortis

    Also, none of the 67 thru 69 blocks were four bolt main. The four bolt main blocks were first introduced with the LT1 engines in the 70 Corvette and 70 Z-28 Camaro.

    Pontiac had their own assembly to comply with the 305 CI. rule for transmission Am racing.

    The Pontiac engine was a 301 CI assembly that was different than the Chevy 302. I am not sure of the bore and stroke of the Pontiac engine but it was different than the Chevrolet engine and no parts interchanged.
     
  18. HellSpawn

    Man... I'll dig out that issue of Chevy High Performance... it has an article on what made a 1969 Z28 a 1969 Z28. Really good article. I'll re-read it and see what I can put up here.
     
  19. cooley346

    i think i disagree with the 350 fact but may be wrong no biggie. But MORTIS IS RIGHT.
     
  20. cooley346

    i think i disagree with the 350 fact but may be wrong no biggie. But MORTIS IS RIGHT. the only way the 302 was able to rev so high (8500) is because of the bigger (327) bore and the smaller (283) crank. Although like mortis said not the same crank, essentially just a performance parts 283 crank. I work with an old guy wh o used to race these and he said it would rev 8500!? not for a long period though. I tell you what though if I saw one rev 8500 I would run or duck or something.
     
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